Posts by Triple A

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What is the current teaching on resurrection of a Jehovah's Witness.

by Triple A in

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what is the current teaching on resurrection of a jehovah's witness.

if they are active when they die will they be resurrected?do they have to meet so many hours, so many books placed?.

the reason for this question is that my jw friend just had a very close jw friend of theirs die.

Triple A

Thanks again to everyone that is contributing to this. I am learning from these responses.

The WT "resurrection" doctrine is that Jehovah will find some dirt from somewhere else, and create a new body that looks like the original person (who remains dead forever). This new body is "stamped" with a information in Jehovahs brain so that it believes that it is the original person.

From this could I ask the question, "When your from is recreated from Jehovah's memory, will see take on the same body?"

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What is the current teaching on resurrection of a Jehovah's Witness.

by Triple A in

jw
friends

what is the current teaching on resurrection of a jehovah's witness.

if they are active when they die will they be resurrected?do they have to meet so many hours, so many books placed?.

the reason for this question is that my jw friend just had a very close jw friend of theirs die.

Triple A

Thanks for the inputs and I am sure more is to come. I see how small changes and little words as in "is" can make a difference in what is meant.

Ok now to the oriignal poster, I am not quite sure of your meaning of your last question about what you should say. Kindness is always the best choice and it is best just to say you are sorry and ask if there is anything that you can do. You shouldn't get into religion at all. Let your friend believe whatever they choose to believe. If they believe the other friend will be resurrected allow your friend to be comforted by that belief, even if to your own mind it is absurd or wrong.

I think that is what I meant when I asked about things that I could say that were not mean spirited. I am not looking to attack her beliefs at this time, althought I want to. At this time I want to be a comfort, but start planting some real seeds of doubt.

Thanks again,

Triple A

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Picketing Duluth Georgia convention

by Junction-Guy in

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i believe i finally found the perfect venue for me to picket, duluth ga, which is just outside of atlanta.the conventions there are the 2nd and 3rd weekend in august.

i know absolutley no one in georgia and there are no chances i could run into any family members there.

there are a couple of conventions before then in s.c. and johnson city tennessee, however for various reasons-monetary and otherwise i am choosing georgia.

Triple A

Is there times at the convetion that they have everybody stand up and do something?

If they do, why not try and fill a whole section with the sharpest looking JWs they have ever seen. Than when they have everybody stand, that section could remain seated.

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What is the current teaching on resurrection of a Jehovah's Witness.

by Triple A in

jw
friends

what is the current teaching on resurrection of a jehovah's witness.

if they are active when they die will they be resurrected?do they have to meet so many hours, so many books placed?.

the reason for this question is that my jw friend just had a very close jw friend of theirs die.

Triple A

What is the current teaching on resurrection of a Jehovah's Witness.

If they are active when they die will they be resurrected?
Do they have to meet so many hours, so many books placed?

The reason for this question is that my JW friend just had a very close JW friend of theirs die. How is she going to be sure that her friend is worthy enough to be resurrected?

What can I say that is not mean spirited to get her to think about what assurance she does not have as a JW?

Triple A

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Former Bethelite comes out and shares story

by Dogpatch in

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i was always a shy kid that desperately wanted to make my parents proud.

at about this same time i started to hang out with some guys that my dad didn?t particularly approve of.

i wonder how my life would have turned out had i stopped at any point between ages 14 and 19 and asked myself who exactly i was doing all this for.

Triple A

Michael,

Welcome here. I hope that you will find some solace among friends that understand you.

Hope that you can also find some comfort that there are people who have never experienced what you have are pulling for you.

One day you might find that because of your courage, others in your family are able to find freedom.

Triple A

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Can some one explain how 607 is wrong

by XQsThaiPoes in

the watchtower and many others claim something happend in 607. this is based on the idea the bible is acurate.

the watchtower states in a few places 586 is the "real date" but they would make the bible wrong which is a no no.

i know they have a vested interest in 607. i can't figure out why is this such a controversy.

Triple A

Okay, I am having problems so I will just retype the last paragraph. Originally built by Solomon in 966 B.C., the Temple at Jerusalem was destroyed four hundred years later in B.C. 586 when the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem and carried the inhabitants of Judah into exile. Subsequently, during the reign of Cyrus the Persian, the Jewish captives and exiles were allowed to return to Palestine. Then the prophets, Haggai and Zechariah, appealed tothe people to rebuild the Temple. Sorry for the misposts, Triple A

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Can some one explain how 607 is wrong

by XQsThaiPoes in

the watchtower and many others claim something happend in 607. this is based on the idea the bible is acurate.

the watchtower states in a few places 586 is the "real date" but they would make the bible wrong which is a no no.

i know they have a vested interest in 607. i can't figure out why is this such a controversy.

Triple A

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Originally built by Solomon in 966 B.C., the

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Can some one explain how 607 is wrong

by XQsThaiPoes in

the watchtower and many others claim something happend in 607. this is based on the idea the bible is acurate.

the watchtower states in a few places 586 is the "real date" but they would make the bible wrong which is a no no.

i know they have a vested interest in 607. i can't figure out why is this such a controversy.

Triple A

XQsThaiPoes, I came across the following site, it appears that the Christian Science are not locked on the 607 BC date. Nor does it have any other significance other than the time that God punished the Jews for their d isobedience .

http://www.endtime.org/standard/vol12no2.html
Volume 12, Number 2 ? November 2003 The Christian Science Standard THE LESSON OF THE GREAT TEMPLE AT JERUSALEM
The history of the great Temple at Jerusalem illustrates the results of observing this law and the fatal consequences from rejecting it. The way to escape the judgment of God in these latter days is by adhering to this law and recognizing and acknowledging "the two anointed ones." Christian Scientists can escape the difficulties of these latter days by applying the lesson of the

Triple A

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Can some one explain how 607 is wrong

by XQsThaiPoes in

the watchtower and many others claim something happend in 607. this is based on the idea the bible is acurate.

the watchtower states in a few places 586 is the "real date" but they would make the bible wrong which is a no no.

i know they have a vested interest in 607. i can't figure out why is this such a controversy.

Triple A

XQsThaiPoes

For the most part, main stream Christians are not concerned with whether the temple was destroyed in 607 BC or 586 BC. That is because there is no authority that is established by it for these denomination by these dates. I was raised and joined the Methodist, as a teen attended a Presbyterian church (because of a girl), and when I was 31 start attending and joined the Christian Reformed Church (again a woman and now wife of 20 years). We talk about these dates as to when they occurred, but we never set anything significants to them as far as authority or prophecy for our denominations.

We do look at prophecy, but for the most part we do not set a date for when it is suppose to happen. Example: Jesus is going to return and for the most part we beleive that it could happen before I post this or thousands of years from now. It does not matter to us when, we just beleive that He will return.

Still trying to find out something about why the Christian Science (not a main stream Christian faith, they are concidered a cult) uses the 607 instead of the 586 date.

Triple A

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Can some one explain how 607 is wrong

by XQsThaiPoes in

the watchtower and many others claim something happend in 607. this is based on the idea the bible is acurate.

the watchtower states in a few places 586 is the "real date" but they would make the bible wrong which is a no no.

i know they have a vested interest in 607. i can't figure out why is this such a controversy.

Triple A

Russell used 606 till he found out that there was no year zero ( 0 ).

The WT could easily do the same if people insisted 586 was the only acceptable date. THe have already conceded enough by saying that is the "secular" date.

Maybe they could, but so much of the authority for the current Faithful and Discreet Slave Class rides on this. They were the ones that changed the 2nd coming of Jesus from 1874 and Armageddon in 1914/15/18/25 to Jesus return in 1914 and Armageddon to 1940s/75/before the turn of the century. Do not forget that Rutherford and friends were released from prison 3.5 years after 1914. This would have to go away as one of the why us and not them reasons to join.

Prehaps when the new Chieftain class is all that is on the GB they will change their stance on 607 BC.